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Lesson 35 — ば形けい· なら ·疑問詞ぎもんし+ ば

BOOK II · 初級 II

L35 · ば conditional · なら

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Conditional ば-form (条件形じょうけんけい)

TypeRuleExample
verb G1u-row → e-row + ば
verb G2る → れば
verb G3—
verb negative
い-adj
い-adj negative
な-adj+ なら
noun+ なら

Irregular: いい → よければ. Also 〜なければならない (L17) is the same ば-form.

1. ば for conditions

2. 疑問詞ぎもんし+ ば いいですか

Equivalent to L26's 〜たらいいですか.

3. 〜なら — topic conditional

Picks up something the other person just said and comments on that topic.

B:温泉おんせんなら、白馬はくばがいいですよ。

なら does not require the first clause to be true or to happen first — it just frames the topic. That's what distinguishes it from たら/ば/と.

4. The four conditionals compared

FormCore useCan main clause be a request?
automatic, inevitable result✕
general "if/when", most flexible○
emphasizes the condition itself△ (restricted with verbs)
"as for that topic…"○
Set expressions会話かいわ

Key vocabulary
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詳説 In depth — grammar notes ›

Making the ば-form (条件形じょうけんけい)

TypeRuleExample
Group Ifinal kana → え-row + ば
Group IIdrop る, add れば
Group III
Verb negative
い-adjective
い-adj negative
な-adjective+ なら
noun+ なら

The ば-form is one vowel away from the potential: / . Both come from the え-row, and mixing them up is the classic slip.

1. ば for conditions

"If A, then B" — a general rule or a hypothetical, with the focus on the condition itself.

JapaneseEnglish
If it's cheap, I'll buy it.
If you press the button, the window opens.
I'll go if it doesn't rain.
If I have time, I'll help.

One real restriction: if the two clauses have the same subject and the ば-clause is an action verb, the main clause cannot be a request, an order or an invitation. ✕ → use たら: ○. With a state — an adjective, ある, or a potential — ば is fine: ○.

2. 疑問詞ぎもんし + ば いいですか — asking what to do

A very useful pattern for asking for instructions.

JapaneseEnglish
What should I do?
Where should I go?
What should I bring?
Who should I ask?
By when should I hand it in?

Compare (L26) — same job, slightly more conversational. Both are polite; ば sounds a touch more formal.

3. 〜なら — given that, in that case

なら picks up something the other person has just raised and builds on it. It follows a plain form or a bare noun.

JapaneseEnglish
"I want to go to Kyoto." "Kyoto? Spring is best."
If you're going to buy a PC, that shop is cheap.
If you're not going, please call.

Only なら lets the main clause precede in time: = I'll buy a camera *before* going. With たら the order flips: = I'll buy it *after* arriving.

4. The four conditionals side by side

FormCore meaningMain-clause limitsExample
automatic result, every timeno requests, no volition
hypothetical or general ruleno requests after an action verb
one specific case, "when/after"anything goes — the safe default
given the topic you raisedanything; can precede in time

When you cannot decide, たら is almost always acceptable. と is only for cause-and-effect that never varies (machines, nature, directions).

Error table
✕○Why
group II adds れば
来くる keeps its く in the ば-form
drop the い before ければ
request after an action-verb ば
nouns take なら, not ば
Try translating
EnglishJapanese
If it's cheap, I'll buy it.
If you press this button, the door opens.
If it doesn't rain, let's go.
What should I do?
Which train should I take?
If you're going to Kyoto, spring is nice.
練習 10 checks
Q1 G1 ば

ば-form of行いきます

行 い
く
godan: u→e + ば:行いけば
Q2 G2 ば

ば-form of 食たべます

食 た
べ
る
ichidan: る→れば
Q3 G3 ば

ば-form of します /来きます

す
る
・
来 く
る
すれば /来くれば(くれば)
Q4 negative ば

Negative ば: 'if I don't go'

な
い
→
ば
ない → なければ
Q5 い-adj ば

ば-form of 安やすい

安 やす
い
い → ければ
Q6 い-adj irregular

ば-form of いい (irregular)

い
い
いい → よければ
Q7 な-adj/noun

な-adj/noun conditional in L35: '晴はれ' →

な
ら
noun/な-adj take なら
Q8 usage

'When spring comes, cherry blossoms bloom.'

ば
なる→なれば
Q9 topic なら

A: 'I want to visit a hot spring...' B: 'If it's hot springs, Hakuba is great.'

な
ら
Picking up the other person's topic = なら
Q10 question word + ば

'What should I do?' (ば version)

ど
う
どう + すれば + いいですか (したら version also exists — L26)

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